I am 23 and dating a 15 year old. What legal rights does she have to defy her mother and see me?
Jacob K asked:
I am a 23 year old man, dating a 15 year old girl. She is extremely mature and sensible and very intelligent, and we are sincerely in love. Her mother and sisters are cruel to her and constantly verbally abuse her.
I am a 23 year old man, dating a 15 year old girl. She is extremely mature and sensible and very intelligent, and we are sincerely in love. Her mother and sisters are cruel to her and constantly verbally abuse her.
Her mother doesn’t want us to be together. From a legal standpoint, what are the girl’s rights to go out and make her decisions in Arizona at the ages of 15, 16, and 17? This includes leaving the house, the mother’s ability to block her from seeing me, etc.
I think under 16 is illegal in this nation and it is a felony..
You may be arrested if you are violating that states code.
wow.
look you even called her a 15 year old GIRL. she isnt old enough to do anything with you i dont think. and i wouldnt be too happy if my daughter was 15 and dating a 23 year old either.
but it is very sad that she is being abused…
3 years difference makes it illegal if one is over 18, that could be statutory rape (if you ya know), but if you truly love her take it easy until she is 18
As I understand it - she has no real rights at all as she is still under her parents jurisdiction. The mom could, if she so decided, have you arrested for statuatory rape. That’s the reason underage girls are called “jailbait”.
She is a minor. She has NO rights. If she wants to leave the house before she’s 18, she needs to go to court and get emancipated.
And if I was her mother, I wouldn’t let you see her either.
I DON’T KNOW…. HMM…. MAYBE I DO MAYBE I DON’T SHUT UP NO YOU SHUT UP I MEAN IT I MEAN IT I’M SIGNING OFF I’M SIGNING OFF!!!
Some free advice don`t drop the soap in prison she jailbait.
She is a minor..she has no right to defy her mother…as for you..you are in line for being on megans list for life after a few years in prison…even if you kiss her is illegal.
I doubt she is that mature…I believe you are immature.
Jacob,your courting trouble bigtime.the mother could take legal action against you,that would most certainly stand up in court.15 year old girls change their mind all the time,so that has a potential of backfiring on you as well.
She’s got no rights to make her own decisions about things like that until she’s 18. She’s a child and if you have any sexual contact with her, you’re considered a child molester and can be imprisoned for that and then you won’t have to worry about it. It’s a Felony in any state - which means State Prison, not County Jail. It doesn’t matter how mature or intelligent she is. She’s a child and you’re an adult.
thats a lot of legals there…verbal abuse if proven and very harsh can be considered enough to get her removed from the house… as for the part of you two dating i can’t you out there that much… call a lawyer to see about getting her out of the house you can speak to them for free over the phone…
Man. You like to live dangerously. Ever hear that phrase “15 will get you 20?”
I hope you have said your goodbyes to your family. The only legal right she has is to beg her mom not to charge you with statutory rape.
LOL that is actually 100% illegal and you probably are going to go to jail if the mother wanted you to.
None. I hope her mom calls the cops on you.
15 will get ya 50
The mother can block her from seeing you all the way until 18. However, if the girl is very mature and very in love with you, then you could hire an attorney and petition for the girl to become an adult before the age of 18. Then you could see her all you want. Sorry, but I forgot the legal term for it. Also, if you are having sexual relations with her, you might want to be careful because I do not know the legal age of consent in the state of Arizona. I live in Kansas, and here it is 16. So if it is 16 there, and she is only 15, you had be very careful if you are touching her in any intimate ways. All it takes is one time of pissing her off, her calling the police and telling them about your relations, and the next thing you know, you are registering as a sex offender. I saw it happen to one of my friends, he was 16, the girl was 15. Luckily for him, he got to stop registering after he turned 18.
I”m sorry to tell you this, but she is still considered a minor..No Matter how mature she seems. The only way to probably intervene on her behalf is to call Child Protective Services if things at home are really that bad. Or just hang in there until she is considered to be an adult whether that be age 16,17 or 18 depending on the state. Note that means she may have to move out of her mom’s house if she is going to defy her rules
HELLO! That is statutory rape. She is a child. You could go to jail.
Her body may be mature and her mind and intelligence may be mature as you both may see it now.
That’s why the law doesn’t make a distinction based on level of maturity.
Soooo, whether she’s mature in your eyes or not, she’s as they say jail bait. That means that if you have sex with her whether consensual or not, you are guilty of statutory rape.
You can get several years in jail for committing rape. The criminals in the jail system serving time for murder and mayhem do not traditionally look kindly on rapists. Sooo, if her Mommy doesn’t like the idea, just think how pissetoff she’ll be and what she’d be like testifying on her little tykes behalf and a brute like you.
Have a great day and you might check the malls for an older girl.
thanks
hmm I’m dutch so I don’t know about the ages in your country but with us it is 18 years old to be able to leave the house. and also when a men is older than 18 and the girl is younger than 18 it is illegal for you to have sex and I’m pretty sure also dating. but I’m not sure for how far her mother can stop you.
I do hope you realize the age difference between you two is quite big.
NONE. Most states in this country consider 18 to be the legal age. If she is 15, her mother could have you arrested. And if mom were to find out you are having sex with her daughter, she could have you charged with statutory rape in any state in the USA
You’re looking at her rights TODAY.
You need to be thinking about her rights two or three years from now.
When she gets mad at you in the next couple of years, she has the right to go to the Police, and have you jailed for twenty years, and branded as a Sex Offender for life.
Now, what are the chances that’ll happen. I’d say they’re near 100%, because the reason you even want to date a 15 year old is probably because that’s your emotional maturity level. By the time she’s 18, chances are very good that she’s going to outgrow you and want to be around an adult. You’re going to react childishly, and that’s when she’s going to call the Police.
You’re really not being very smart, are you?
The child is still a minor regardless how mature she may seem to be. She has no legal right as a minor. You have a position where you can be charged for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and in this state that is a serious offense punishable with prison time. Apparently you are not too mature yourself.
At the moment she has NO rights, as she is a minor. She can approach a judge to request to be emancipated and that would give her full rights to live her own life. However, it may still not be legal for you to do naughty things together, so it may not be in your best interest to bring any courts into the equation if anything like that has happened.
Good luck.
It is illegal she cannot give legal consent unless she is 16, if you make any move on her you will be arrested and you will be charged with indecentcy with a minor. if you are having sex with her then you can be charged with statutory rape and that is not a good thing on record because it is a felony. I advise you not to do anything with her until she is old enough, if her parents want you to stay away I advise you to do as they say to keep you out of trouble. I have a aunt that has a felony on her record and she cant even geta job at most resturant’s becuase of it. so I will advise you to stay away
You’re an idiot. Her mother’s legal rights include putting you in jail for statutory rape if you are having sexual relations with this child.
If you’re really sincerely in love, you’d know to get away from her until she’s old enough to make sound decisions, and 15 ain’t it.
By the way, when you’re arrested the police will seize your computer and all the emails etc between you and her will be fair game in your prosecution. Don’t say I didn’t tell you so.
She has no rights whatsoever as she is still a minor and has not even reached the minimum age of consent which is 16 years old. You say she is extremely mature but such a conclusion is apparently bias since you want to justify your continued dating but you ought to know that since she is still a minor and only 15 years of age, that she cannot be considered as sufficiently mature. You have no justifiable reason for encouraging her to defy her parents who are acting fully within their rights. They can charge you and with good reason for corruption of a minor and if you have so influenced her and have sexual relations with her you can be charged witt statutory rape.You are 23 years of age and ought to be the mature person here instead of instigating her to defy her family. As to your statement that her family is cruel to her maybe from your point of view but if her family is scolding her (verbal abuse to you) and trying everything to keep her from you because she is still a minor (for her own good) that is not cruelty. If you really love the GIRL you would walk away and when she is of age then go back and find out if she still wants to date you. You know how minors are very impressionable and easily flattered when an adult and mature man pays attention to them and so they easily succumb but that is not love and you ought to know better.
The age of consent in Arizona is 18 you are asking to go to jail if you have any kind of sexual contact with her. All her mom has to do is call the police are your going to be arrested and possibly having to register as a sex offender every place you live for a very long time! They are working on a law in Arizona that might allow sexual contact between minors that are close in age but since your neither a minor and there is 8 years difference in age this law if passed still won’t save your butt! So if I were you I would break up with this child and find someone that is a legal adult and if you had sex with her you may as well plan on getting arrested because she will probably be mad when you break up and want to get even. If you leave with her you might find that the FBI will be looking for you and you will get charged with kid napping even if she said she left willingly with you. She is also too young to become an emancipated adult that would require her to be 16 years of age and have consent of her parents. emancipation laws:
craving anonymity i assume you skew the facts a bit and ‘’she” is really a 15 year old boy….and you are a NAMBLA man.
From a legal sense, unless you and the girl are married, her mother probably has every right to restrict her from you. In some states, if you marry the girl, those parental rights cease.
That’s an awful pressure on you and her to get married, but that is the law in some places. In some places she could be married at 13 without her mother’s permission!
In some states it is 16. Your best bet is to make peace with her mom and second best is to talk to the local police station and find out your local rights. If you cannot make peace with her mom and the law is on her side, BACK OFF! Your heart may be broken for a while, but your LIFE won’t be! You could wind up labeled as a sex offender for LIFE! It is not worth it, Buddy!
It is very difficult to judge your maturity and sense of good intention from where I sit. If you are in any way doing drugs,or condone drug usage either now or in yours or her future, YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY WRONG!
I wish you well. At least you have the dignity and sense of purpose to ask.
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As the mother of two teenage daughters, here is my advice.
At 15, she is a CHILD. So, no matter how much she whines and begs to see you, no matter how much you ‘love her’, no matter how much she cries ‘he makes me feel like a woman’. …the local authorities will be notified. Hopefully you will be ‘notified’ of their interest in your activities and your ‘ardor’ will fade.
She will be restricted from her seeing you and if she persists, as her mother my next step will be with the local district attorney…..the list of charges I will pursue will include: contributing to the delinquency of a minor, statuatory rape, kidnapping (removing her from the parents property without their permission), and pedophilia. After this meeting, i would be dropping a dime to the local news media as to when you ‘will be taken in for questioning’ - smile pretty for the newpaper, jerkwad. I will then attempt to find the parents of your ‘previous conquests’ - most of whom were underage as well, and you lost interest when they ‘grew up’ and outgrew you. I’m sure their moms would ‘love’ to see you get what you deserve. I’m also sure, if they could keep their daughters names out of the meda, would LOVE to talk to the DA to show you have developed a pattern.
This moma don’t play………….so you had best plan on investing in KY and registering as a sexual predator until you are a very, very old man. And if we are lucky, and you get time, be prepared to see my smiling face at every ‘early release’ or ‘probationary’ meeting the prison may give you to testify that ‘if you did it to MY daughter, you would do it to THEIRS’….you may also want to get your front teeth pulled as well, I hear that makes you real popular in prison.
Expect to be criminally charged for contributing to the delinquency of a minor and/or statutory rape of a minor and have to register for life as a child predator!
You are a perv to take advantage of a child and ruin her life! If you were a real man, you would date someone your own age instead of taking advantage of a child and expect to reap the consequences of your action.
In some states, it will be 10-25 years (at least 7 in most cases…ever hear of Mary Kay Letourneou?) in prison and again, have to register for life as a child sexual predator.
If I were you I would back out of this situation before the mother has you arrested for statuatory rape which is the mothers right. Mature or not she is only 15 and you are 23.
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Maybe you should try something new. Have you ever went to new sites online to try to meet people like or if you need to vent about it?
A 23 yr old dating a 15 yr old is considered statutory rape in all 50 states. If you decide to do anything other than holding hands you will get jail time, and have to carry the tag of child rapist for the rest of your life. The child is not worth this, walk away.
Marie
Houston
Wow, I’m amazed at the abuse this guy has received on here. He asked a question for help, not to get preached a sermon.
She has no rights, basically, at 15. Her mother can dictate her comings and goings. If she defies her mother to go with you, mom could file a missing persons report, and you could be in trouble with the law.
If she is in an abusive situation, she should contact Child & Youth Services (or you should). When she hits 16, she could file for an emancipation if she can show she is able to make it on her own.
As far as the jailbait thing, that’s only if you’re having intercourse.
Dating a girl under the age of consent is not rape.
i think its ine but my mom had me when she was 19 to my dad who at the time was 29, sadly they are no longer together,,, but i think if u really do think its true love then age DOESNT matter